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Goggins and Carter share their thoughts on Boyd, Ava, the future of "Justified"!

Goggins and Carter share their thoughts on Boyd, Ava, the future of

Walton Goggins has played in many different movies and TV series. The role of Boyd Crowder made him known and showed his acting talent.

“Justified” is a popular American crime drama television series that premiered on March 16, 2010. It was based on the story of novelist Elmore Leonard, "Fire in the Hole". The working title for the series was “Lawman”. The first episode was referred to as the “Fire in the Hole pilot” during shooting and retains this as the name of the episode itself.

The “Justified” tells about the USA Deputy Marshal Raylan Givens who is like an Old West Lawman lives and works in modern America. He has nonstandard enforcement of justice that makes him “a big problem” for criminals and certainly for the Head of the USA Marshals Service.

Cops and detectives have been icons of American masculinity. For the last years people have been watching these shows because they are drawn to the idea of what really is happening in law enforcement. Combining brain power and monster force, these detectives represent the myth of the lone hero who is eternally faced with new challenges and puzzles, a man who must rub shoulders with the criminal component but maintain his integrity, courageously in front of fear to make the world safe for women and children. The law enforcement icon has such a powerful grasp on the American imagination that many of the most popular TV shows in U.S. history feature cops or private investigators as the main characters. Through the history of TV we have seen a wide variety of detectives and the different types of detective.

The series is set in the city of Lexington, Kentucky and the hill country of Eastern Kentucky, specifically in and around Harlan Country. Timothy Olyphant stars as the tough, smart, sexy and southern-bred, but soft-spoken federal lawman, enforcing his own brand of justice. Sometimes very extralegal justice!

After FX showed the first two episodes of “Justified” Season 5 before their day of panels before the Television Critics Association Press Tour, the “Justified” cast gave exclusive interviews! Walton Goggins and Joelle Carter share their thoughts about the project, their characters and many others!

This season, Boyd Crowder (Goggins) suddenly finds himself courting Mexican drugs to help pay for his efforts to get Ava (Carter) out of prison. Goggins and Carter are going to discuss the penultimate season for “Justified”!

How distracting is it for Boyd to have Ava in prison?

Walton Goggins: I would say it’s more than a distraction. He’s in a desperate situation really. This is the meaning to his life, the meaning to his existence and having her away is personally hard for me as an actor, for Walt, not to be working with Joelle on a daily basis. That’s hard enough and then it’s compounded by Boyd not being able to see Ava.

Joelle, did you always expect Ava to end up in this situation with her criminal lifestyle?

Goggins: That’s a great question. Did you?

Joelle Carter: I don’t know if I did expect it.

Goggins: Like in the pilot?

Carter: No way. I thought she was going to have to pay more of a price after the pilot for killing her husband and that never really got rectified. What happened [was] they just kind of slapped her on the wrist. I always thought maybe that was because the city where she grew up in knew of the abuse that she had taken and the judge took it easy on her.

But I was just talking to Walton’s manager that it’s funny, Ava seems to be the only character that’s really paying a price for all the stuff that happens on the show right now. So maybe in some way it’s symbolic of what should be happening to all the other characters. There’s a lot of killing that goes on, but you’re paying the price too.

Goggins: Yeah, but in some ways you are kind of the moral to the story, that you are paying the ultimate price. We’ll see what happens when it’s all said and done because I have a feeling that no one gets out of Harlan alive. I don’t know the answer to those questions but there’s a fracture and a splintering of this relationship by proxy of Ava’s incarceration, but it would be very difficult to overcome moving forward.

Carter: I also feel like a lot of the characters, including Ava, are kind of meeting up with their destiny in a way. Now that we’ve played them for so long and there’s one year left and the writers are shooting towards the end, what they want it to be, maybe this is who this character was really supposed to be. Now that she’s put in this circumstance, is she going to step up and become who she will end up? Or, is she going to get eaten alive in prison and by heartbreak and whatever.

Goggins: I know we’re just kind of talking on one question that you asked but for me, it’s so interesting when you step back and do look at it. The world was perfect for these two people for one moment, this one moment in the interior of the home where the possibilities were endless, and that was fleeting. You don’t realize when you’re living your life when you have it so good and how tenuous existence could be.

For these two people, happiness and structure and commitment and love the way they understood it is falling through their fingers. It’s like sand falling through their hands and they can’t do anything about it. They’re powerless to do anything about it.

Carter: Almost every season has kind of felt like a new show and their characters luckily develop. You’re playing the same character but in such different circumstances that yeah, it feels like a new show.

Goggins: I said this in another interview. Maybe episode two or episode three, in my own life I was anxious. My temper was a short temper and I felt not on my game personally.

Of the first season or this season?

Goggins: No, this season. I was talking to my wife about it, she said, “It’s Boyd. It’s what you’re dealing with being away from Ava.” She’s right. She was so right because for me, it’s so hard for Boyd to be around a bunch of people that are very, very new in his life. He doesn’t have a lot of history with anyone he interfaces with this season. There is no one to trust. The only person that he really trusts was Ava and Jimmy who has gone and done what he decided to do, and Arlo is gone.

Even Duffy, his new partner, there’s no real history.

Goggins: There’s no real history there. As selfish as Walton likes working with Jere [Burns], Boyd does not trust Wynn Duffy.

Carter: I mean, they’re both put in such a circumstance where they’re just going to live this whole season not trusting anyone. It’s going to be interesting when they come face to face with each other.

Goggins: Can they trust each other?

That’s going to take a toll.